Effects of Niacin on Restless Leg Syndrome

Objective

Testing niacin supplementation as a potential treatment for people with Restless Leg Syndrome.

Description

BACK STORY: This experiment is inspired by Seth Roberts' case studies of RLS being immediately ameliorated or eliminated by niacin supplementation:

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/17/restless-legs-syndro.html

HYPOTHESIS: Niacin will decrease the symptoms of restless leg syndrome in patients. The "medium" dose may generally be more effective, than both the "low" and "high" doses, in eliminating symptoms of RLS and avoiding side effects of niacin.

ABOUT RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME: Restless leg syndrome is a disorder in which there is an urge or need to move the legs to stop unpleasant sensations.

POSSIBLE SIDE EFFECTS OF NIACIN: Diarrhea; dizziness; headache; heartburn; increased cough, indigestion, or upset stomach; nausea; temporary skin redness, itching, tingling, or feelings of warmth (flushing); vomiting.

Inclusion Criteria

Participants must have Restless Leg Syndrome.

Exclusion Criteria

Those who do not experience Restless Leg Syndrome.
This is a one month study. Participants may start this study on their own at any time.

WEEK 1: Data Gathering/Control--Take 0mg/day niacin. Track symptoms.

WEEK 2: Test "Low" Dose--Take 250mg/day niacin. Track symptoms.

WEEK 3: Test "Med: Dose--Take 500mg/day niacin. Track symptoms.

WEEK 4: Test "High" Dose--Take 1000mg/day niacin. Track symptoms.

DAILY: Track all symptoms including any side effects (eg: hot flushes) in severity (scale of 1-5, highest severity=5) and frequency. Also note all medication/supplements you take.

OPTIONAL (Find out if your cholesterol has improved as a side benefit): Take two blood lipid panel tests:
a) During Week 1.
b) 1-7 days after Week 4.

Discussion

ktpickard

ktpickard The results from this study are posted on my blog, GeneNomad: http://bit.ly/xuxebT You can also view the data uploaded to Genomera by clicking the "Download Data" link in the Instruments box on the right. By sharing data, we all benefit. Sign-up with Genomera and learn how crowdsourced studies can enhance your health and wellness.

EriGentry

EriGentry Thanks for sharing. I tweeted from @genomera. PS: Can you explain your nomadic approach to wellness? Very curious :)

ktpickard

ktpickard The name of my blog, GeneNomad, is a combination of "Genome" and "Nomad." Health and wellness is a nomadic journey--pitching a tent, then pulling up stakes--looking for health on higher ground. It's the journey that matters.

ktpickard

ktpickard End of week 1. It's amazing how much the RLS sensation varies by day, even by hour. I will begin taking niacin tomorrow...useful info about when and how much to take here: http://www.doctoryourself.com/niacin.html My (baseline) cholesterol results arrived today: 168 total cholesterol, 42 HDL. Let's see if HDL improves.

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EriGentry

EriGentry Will you be testing your cholesterol after the course of niacin?

ktpickard

ktpickard Yes, I am meeting with my doctor tomorrow to discuss the study and order the tests.

ktpickard

ktpickard Although I finished this study two months ago, I continued to take niacin at 100 mg/day. I recently re-tested my cholesterol: 170 total cholesterol (unchanged); triglycerides dropped from 58 to 26 (over 50% decrease - good!); HDL increased 14% from 42 to 48 (great!); and LDL remained the same (117). My exercise routine did not change over the past teo months, so the niacin may have influenced these improvements.

gbiggers

gbiggers If you edit the study and add the RLS/Niacin tracker as an instrument, others can contribute data along with yours. Let us know if you need help with it.

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ktpickard

ktpickard Done! Thank you for the suggestion.

gbiggers

gbiggers Excellent. Who else do we know with restless leg syndrome that might join this study and/or help us create another one?

ktpickard

ktpickard I hope to see Janet next week at the QS meetup. We'll talk about next steps...

janet

janet I posted on a RLS group forum to see if there's any interest there from the yet-to-be-cured. In doing further reading, it looks like some RLS-ers have seen improvements with Earthing/grounding: "I myself immediately experienced the elimination of an annoying restless leg syndrome when I slept grounded and I saw how Earthing helped give substantial relief for my wife’s back and knee pain." (source: http://www.earthinginstitute.net/index.php/site/blog/Earthing_Institute_Reports/)

ktpickard

ktpickard End of week 3. The niacin was not working, so I abandoned the experiment on Wednesday. I went back to my original medication and am doing OK. A final note: I met with my doctor recently—he suggested getting my ferritin level checked. Ferritin is the protein responsible for storing and releasing iron. Some people with RLS may have this hidden iron deficiency, even though they do not have anemia: http://www.sleep-journal.com/article/S1389-9457%2801%2900160-5/abstract

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EriGentry

EriGentry My dad, who has RLS, was looking at iron levels for fatigue. I wonder if the two are related, and whether iron plays a central role in sleep.

janet

janet So sorry niacin didn't work out for you. What is the name of your current medication?

janet

janet My doctor specifically tests for ferritin rather than blood iron levels because of ferritin's crucial roles in iron storage as you've mentioned. Although serum ferritin is the most sensitive measure of iron deficiency, serum ferritin results can be elevated by any type of chronic inflammation. http://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/18/3/975.short Just something to be wary of if one is not on an anti-inflammatory diet/supplements like fish oil (although your healthy low grain diet may exclude you from this concern).

ktpickard

ktpickard I have read lots of anecdotal evidence showing that people with anemia sleep better once they start taking iron. In my case, it turns out that my ferritin level is quite low: 14ng/mL (normal for men is 26 – 388ng/mL, although the range varies). This finding is surprising, since I give blood regularly and do not have anemia. Several studies suggest that low ferritin levels are associated with RLS (for example: http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/9646381). My doctor recommended ferrous gluconate 325 mg (25mg elemental iron), and I just started taking it. Currently, I am taking clonazepam .5mg/day, which I have taken for the past 10 years. Let’s see what happens next!

EriGentry

EriGentry Keep us posted! Btw, how did your cholesterol test turn out?

ktpickard

ktpickard I am continuing to take 100mg/day of niacin. I will measure both cholesterol and ferritin levels in about four months because these levels change slowly.

EriGentry

EriGentry I've got to make sure to get a ferritin test. I'll let you all know once I have the data

janet

janet One person with RLS on a forum says: "I take, calcium, iron and Vitamin B supplements. I am on dialysis and I do blood test each month. So I noticed that when my hemoglobin and iron goes down RLS gets worse."

ktpickard

ktpickard My hemoglobin is OK, but my ferritin level is very low. I started taking ferrous gluconate 27mg/day about two months ago, and my energy is up. I just asked my doctor for a baseline vitamin B test. Toying with the idea that since low iron is associated with poor vitamin B12 absorption, low ferritin could be also.

ktpickard

ktpickard I will be presenting the results from this self-tracking study at the next Quantified Self meetup on October 27 in San Francisco: http://www.meetup.com/quantifiedself/events/34089092/.

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EriGentry

EriGentry Wonderful! Please share the slides afterward. I will post on the Genomera blog. It's a shame I'll miss it - will be at TEDMED that week. Good luck!

EriGentry

EriGentry PS: I tweeted about your talk. Are you on twitter?

ktpickard

ktpickard Thank you for the tweet! @kthomaspickard

ktpickard

ktpickard I posted the video of my presentation to: http://www.genenomad.com

jeffk8900

jeffk8900 joined as a data participant.

janet

janet Welcome jeffk! How did you find out about this study?

mwinlo

mwinlo joined as a data participant.

janet

janet Welcome mwinlo! How did you find out about this study?

ktpickard

ktpickard This week, 23andMe released a new preliminary report on RLS: https://www.23andme.com/health/restless-legs-syndrome-preliminary-research/ The results include 6 SNPs from 3 GWAS studies; all SNPs are included in 23andMe v3 data. This preliminary report aligns with other RLS variants detailed by deCODEme and Navigenics (with a shout out to DIYgenomics for the comparison!)

janet

janet One person posted on an RLS forum that calf massage works: http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=866518

ktpickard

ktpickard Cure Together has a nice set of RLS treatments reported by their members: http://curetogether.com/restless-legs-syndrome/treatments/ae/ (Get a free account to see the entire list.)

ktpickard

ktpickard added the "Restless Leg Syndrome & Niacin Tracker" instrument to this study.

ktpickard

ktpickard We recently added a tracking instrument to the study: http://www.genomera.com/instruments/restless-leg-syndrome-niacin-tracker Thank you, Jonathan!

ktpickard

ktpickard End of week 2. It has been a tough week...no improvement at 250mg/day. Going to 500mg/day tomorrow. Good backgrounder on RLS (including genetic markers!) here: http://www.uptodate.com/contents/restless-legs-syndrome?source=search_result&search=rls&selectedTitle=1~42#H4

SydneyBennet

SydneyBennet Have you ever taken anything for RLS before?

ktpickard

ktpickard I have been taking clonazepam (.5mg/day) for the past 10 years with great success. I tried Requip a few years ago, but it did not work as well. Right now, I am only taking niacin. Other suggestions are most welcome!

ktpickard

ktpickard is now a study organizer.

ktpickard

ktpickard Beginning the RLS study today after tapering off meds for one week. For the next month, I will be keeping my data in a spreadsheet here: http://bit.ly/pT1zok Maybe some of these items could be tracked with Instruments (?)

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EriGentry

EriGentry Great! I hope you will also post on the study wall to let us know how it's going. Good idea re: instrument. Did you all see how to request them? http://blog.genomera.com/pump-up-your-studies-with-instruments-heres-h

EriGentry

EriGentry Can you explain the vocal tics metric? I have not heard of that before. I suspect RLS for myself (I've kicked myself awake) but am not sure. It's interesting to note these non-intuitive symptoms.

ktpickard

ktpickard The metrics seem to be working, so I'll request some instruments. As for vocal tics...it's a subjective measurement. It turns out that I sometimes make a noise with the leg jerk. Go figure...

SydneyBennet

SydneyBennet joined as a discussion participant.

EriGentry

EriGentry Funny: My dad became interested in my work once I told him about this study. ;) He wants to know whether it works and how much niacin to take. I told him he has to do the study (and I'm not qualified to give medical advice!).

ktpickard

ktpickard Before taking meds for RLS, I used to kick my wife in bed. She did not like it very much. :)

ktpickard

ktpickard joined as a data participant

Rickson

Rickson joined as a data participant

kevinburke

kevinburke is no longer a study participant.

kevinburke

kevinburke joined as a data participant

derekja

derekja interesting article today: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110714191424.htm

derekja

derekja joined as a discussion participant

EriGentry

EriGentry Janet, I think it would be interesting to hear your experience with RLS. Can you share? :)

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janet

janet To be honest, most of my experience with RLS is from brief moments of bouncy legs while sitting that seem more controllable than typical clinical cases of RLS. I won't be providing data formally, but it would be interesting to see what effects, if any, niacin has on the non-afflicted!

EriGentry

EriGentry Do you know anyone with RLS? It would be good to have them as an advisor, or maybe a co-organizer. They might provide some insights that non-affected people would miss.

janet

janet That sounds like a good idea. I know Seth Roberts, who was personally involved in a friend's niacin-on-RLS study. I can ask to get in contact with his friend who experiences RLS.

EriGentry

EriGentry How did it go? Seth was extremely helpful with Butter Mind. Hope he was able to give you some good feedback!

janet

janet If anyone has ideas on how to recruit more data participants, toot your outreach-and-marketing horn!

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EriGentry

EriGentry The Restless Legs Syndrome Foundation has support groups around the world. You could target groups one by one at http://www.rls.org/Page.aspx?pid=514 or...

EriGentry

EriGentry Since you're in Mountain View, you could find someone at Stanford who studies RLS and ask them to help you do outreach

janet

janet Thanks for all the suggestions!

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